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		<title>Comment on The 5 Myths of Web 2.0 by Web 2.0, Revenue Models and Profitability: A Web 1.0 Comparison &#124; CenterNetworks</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2007/06/23/the-5-myths-of-web20/comment-page-1/#comment-108249</link>
		<dc:creator>Web 2.0, Revenue Models and Profitability: A Web 1.0 Comparison &#124; CenterNetworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Web 2.0&#8217;s biggest myths: it&#8217;s far easier and far cheaper to get a startup off the ground today than it was a decade [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Web 2.0&#8217;s biggest myths: it&#8217;s far easier and far cheaper to get a startup off the ground today than it was a decade [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on kaChing: There Goes Your Money, Here Come the Lawsuits (If the SEC Doesn&#8217;t Shut Them Down First) by David Byrd - David.byrd11@bcp.org</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/12/16/kaching-there-goes-your-money-here-come-the-lawsuits-if-the-sec-doesnt-shut-them-down-first/comment-page-1/#comment-107340</link>
		<dc:creator>David Byrd - David.byrd11@bcp.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O and you are generally mis informed, because in order to become a &quot;genius&quot; Kaching runs a comprehensive background check on you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O and you are generally mis informed, because in order to become a &#8220;genius&#8221; Kaching runs a comprehensive background check on you</p>
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		<title>Comment on kaChing: There Goes Your Money, Here Come the Lawsuits (If the SEC Doesn&#8217;t Shut Them Down First) by David Byrd - David.byrd11@bcp.org</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/12/16/kaching-there-goes-your-money-here-come-the-lawsuits-if-the-sec-doesnt-shut-them-down-first/comment-page-1/#comment-107338</link>
		<dc:creator>David Byrd - David.byrd11@bcp.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This blog has lost all credibility with this article. Kaching is backed by Kliener Perkin&#039;s Kevin Compton (Verisign angel investor and San Jose Sharks Owner) The founders of OpenTable and Netscape. And the CEO is Andy Rachleff a co-founder of Benchmarks (the founders of ebay, twitter, AOL, 1800flowers,Palm,Ariba, and Juniper Networks just to name a view). This Blog is a joke they know nothing about silicon valley venture capitol, because if they did then they would understand that they created blogging and when they did everyone criticized it. They thought that &quot;it would illegitimatize&quot; the industry. People thought that no one would read them because they would be the sources of mass confusion. Other than looking like a dumb ass, you have also illegitimated the creators of your occupation. con grats drama 2.0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog has lost all credibility with this article. Kaching is backed by Kliener Perkin&#8217;s Kevin Compton (Verisign angel investor and San Jose Sharks Owner) The founders of OpenTable and Netscape. And the CEO is Andy Rachleff a co-founder of Benchmarks (the founders of ebay, twitter, AOL, 1800flowers,Palm,Ariba, and Juniper Networks just to name a view). This Blog is a joke they know nothing about silicon valley venture capitol, because if they did then they would understand that they created blogging and when they did everyone criticized it. They thought that &#8220;it would illegitimatize&#8221; the industry. People thought that no one would read them because they would be the sources of mass confusion. Other than looking like a dumb ass, you have also illegitimated the creators of your occupation. con grats drama 2.0</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paul Graham Doesn&#8217;t Know What He&#8217;s Talking About by Silicon Valley Inc. Needs a Turnaround Expert, New PR Firm &#124; CenterNetworks</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/12/10/paul-graham-doesnt-know-what-hes-talking-about/comment-page-1/#comment-106380</link>
		<dc:creator>Silicon Valley Inc. Needs a Turnaround Expert, New PR Firm &#124; CenterNetworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cobbling something together. Hmm. Do you hear that, Paul Graham? [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Kim Kardashian vs. Lamborghini: Who Has the Smoothest Ride? by Oscar T.</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2009/04/05/kim-kardashian-vs-lamborghini-who-has-the-smoothest-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-106245</link>
		<dc:creator>Oscar T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That phat ass is delivered and neglected O O O O Omoney</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That phat ass is delivered and neglected O O O O Omoney</p>
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		<title>Comment on Facebook is Fucked by Rod</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/01/29/facebook-is-fucked/comment-page-1/#comment-99397</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facebook is fucked now, cant even log in with a 56k modem,, its a useless site now,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook is fucked now, cant even log in with a 56k modem,, its a useless site now,</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Overfunded: Why Too Much Money Is a Bad Thing by Startup Venture Capital, VC, Venture Capital &#38; Technology &#187; Why do VCs invest in worthless companies?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Startup Venture Capital, VC, Venture Capital &#38; Technology &#187; Why do VCs invest in worthless companies?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve pointed out before, being overfunded can be just as destructive to a new company as being underfunded. Yet because the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve pointed out before, being overfunded can be just as destructive to a new company as being underfunded. Yet because the [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Whitney Port Shows Off Her Sexy Body by Arlington</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2009/07/22/whitney-port-shows-off-her-sexy-body/comment-page-1/#comment-97334</link>
		<dc:creator>Arlington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice pics, but post more stuff about web 2.0 - that was some funny content</description>
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		<title>Comment on Note to Tide: Detergent is Detergent by ReaderX</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/14/note-to-tide-detergent-is-detergent/comment-page-1/#comment-90367</link>
		<dc:creator>ReaderX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couple of thoughts come to mind:

1. Social media sites are overhyped and merit much caution on the part of marketers.

2. The campaign rings hollow and deserves being called out as a flop. It&#039;s sick. And I mean sick. Sounds like some dumbfuck C*O caved into peer-pressure and/or wants to be cool, without much concern as to cost.

3. The idea that most any advertising on social media is a waste of money is itself overhyped, as some advertisers *are* generating worthwhile ROI as sure as others are pissing cash away. I suppose it&#039;s just easier to generalize glibly and write off disliked venues.

4. Greg has a good question: does one failure negate an entire field? I think not.

5. Based on the Forrester figures you quoted, I&#039;d say Tide&#039;s problem isn&#039;t social media, per se, so much as being ignorant. Ignorant enough to pay invoices anywhere close $300,000 for a Facebook page, especially when the overpriced and lame agency clearly has no fucking clue what to do.

6. Fear of user comments means you need to rethink your approach. You don&#039;t own the brand, you influence it. If you&#039;re afraid of user comments, then you haven&#039;t reached out to the right people in the right way. Generally speaking, folks don&#039;t cruise the net looking for websites where they can go out of their way to disparage Brand X. That&#039;s silly. Rethink your plan and figure out what you&#039;re doing wrong. Did I mention you don&#039;t own your brand? Get over it.

7. I agree with Adam (and you) that the social media hype has gotten stupid.

8. I also agree with Michael that Tide should experiment with social media. From this particular campaign, they can reach only one conclusion: they need to fire their agency.

9. I agree with Michael that Tide should re-focus on how they can facilitate additional benefits to their intended audience. 

10. Timer may be a good idea or not. I think it&#039;s an interesting.

11. Your point about not wanting any further relationship with Tide falls on deaf ears. People don&#039;t want Tide ruining their magazine or interrupting their TV. But it happens anyway. Tide is the cat on your book and the barking dog who disrupts your favorite show. It gets in your face and tries to be involved in your life like every other fucking annoying product and company spending money on marketing. That Tide wants to flirt with dialogue is simply an upgrade to what it&#039;s been doing all along, only this time you get to talk... if you want. If not, don&#039;t participate. Pretty simple.

12. Hey Tide drones, if you want a social media campaign that *will* produce ROI against measurable objectives for a reasonable price, call me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple of thoughts come to mind:</p>
<p>1. Social media sites are overhyped and merit much caution on the part of marketers.</p>
<p>2. The campaign rings hollow and deserves being called out as a flop. It&#8217;s sick. And I mean sick. Sounds like some dumbfuck C*O caved into peer-pressure and/or wants to be cool, without much concern as to cost.</p>
<p>3. The idea that most any advertising on social media is a waste of money is itself overhyped, as some advertisers *are* generating worthwhile ROI as sure as others are pissing cash away. I suppose it&#8217;s just easier to generalize glibly and write off disliked venues.</p>
<p>4. Greg has a good question: does one failure negate an entire field? I think not.</p>
<p>5. Based on the Forrester figures you quoted, I&#8217;d say Tide&#8217;s problem isn&#8217;t social media, per se, so much as being ignorant. Ignorant enough to pay invoices anywhere close $300,000 for a Facebook page, especially when the overpriced and lame agency clearly has no fucking clue what to do.</p>
<p>6. Fear of user comments means you need to rethink your approach. You don&#8217;t own the brand, you influence it. If you&#8217;re afraid of user comments, then you haven&#8217;t reached out to the right people in the right way. Generally speaking, folks don&#8217;t cruise the net looking for websites where they can go out of their way to disparage Brand X. That&#8217;s silly. Rethink your plan and figure out what you&#8217;re doing wrong. Did I mention you don&#8217;t own your brand? Get over it.</p>
<p>7. I agree with Adam (and you) that the social media hype has gotten stupid.</p>
<p>8. I also agree with Michael that Tide should experiment with social media. From this particular campaign, they can reach only one conclusion: they need to fire their agency.</p>
<p>9. I agree with Michael that Tide should re-focus on how they can facilitate additional benefits to their intended audience. </p>
<p>10. Timer may be a good idea or not. I think it&#8217;s an interesting.</p>
<p>11. Your point about not wanting any further relationship with Tide falls on deaf ears. People don&#8217;t want Tide ruining their magazine or interrupting their TV. But it happens anyway. Tide is the cat on your book and the barking dog who disrupts your favorite show. It gets in your face and tries to be involved in your life like every other fucking annoying product and company spending money on marketing. That Tide wants to flirt with dialogue is simply an upgrade to what it&#8217;s been doing all along, only this time you get to talk&#8230; if you want. If not, don&#8217;t participate. Pretty simple.</p>
<p>12. Hey Tide drones, if you want a social media campaign that *will* produce ROI against measurable objectives for a reasonable price, call me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TechCrunch&#8217;s DataPortability Conflict of Interest? by From the Pipeline - 4.16.08 — Shooting at Bubbles</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/04/16/techcrunchs-dataportability-conflict-of-interest/comment-page-1/#comment-89912</link>
		<dc:creator>From the Pipeline - 4.16.08 — Shooting at Bubbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 06:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TechCrunch’s DataPortability Conflict of Interest? :: The Drama 2.0 Show - some interesting questions being asked about the charity donations  to organizations that technically may not be charities. [...]</description>
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