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		<title>By: Drama 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/09/10/startup-advice-fitbit/comment-page-1/#comment-26714</link>
		<dc:creator>Drama 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Health Industry Observer: I don&#039;t really consider Fitbit and its competitors to be &quot;health-focused&quot; in the same sense that I think you do. I see it as more of a weight loss industry (or racket?) play and from that perspective, I wouldn&#039;t market it as anything other than a nifty gadget that helps you track your activities for the purpose of improving fitness.

I&#039;m loosely familiar with Revolution Health. To be quite honest, I haven&#039;t really been all that interested in online health content plays since Web 1.0.

Frankly, I think it&#039;s often less-than-productive (and sometimes outright stupid) to rely on health information from the Internet. If I have a problem, I call my doctor. Working fine so far!

By the way, you might be interested in the post I wrote about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.e-consultancy.com/news-blog/365665/google-asks-do-you-have-any-known-allergies.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google Health&lt;/a&gt;.

Diwaker: if I do that, everytime you read one of my posts you won&#039;t be reminded of my washboard abs (as seen in my logo photo).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Health Industry Observer: I don&#8217;t really consider Fitbit and its competitors to be &#8220;health-focused&#8221; in the same sense that I think you do. I see it as more of a weight loss industry (or racket?) play and from that perspective, I wouldn&#8217;t market it as anything other than a nifty gadget that helps you track your activities for the purpose of improving fitness.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m loosely familiar with Revolution Health. To be quite honest, I haven&#8217;t really been all that interested in online health content plays since Web 1.0.</p>
<p>Frankly, I think it&#8217;s often less-than-productive (and sometimes outright stupid) to rely on health information from the Internet. If I have a problem, I call my doctor. Working fine so far!</p>
<p>By the way, you might be interested in the post I wrote about <a href="http://www.e-consultancy.com/news-blog/365665/google-asks-do-you-have-any-known-allergies.html" rel="nofollow">Google Health</a>.</p>
<p>Diwaker: if I do that, everytime you read one of my posts you won&#8217;t be reminded of my washboard abs (as seen in my logo photo).</p>
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		<title>By: Diwaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diwaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drama: could you please provide full text in your RSS feeds? Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drama: could you please provide full text in your RSS feeds? Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Health Industry Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/09/10/startup-advice-fitbit/comment-page-1/#comment-26706</link>
		<dc:creator>Health Industry Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish FitBit folks the best of luck and according to my experience with the industry they are going to need it. Many health-focused businesses appear deceptively easy from the outside, but there is a huge difference between what appears useful and what actually sells.

Have you followed Steve Case and his troubles with Revolution Health? This is perhaps the biggest case study in Web 2.0 dreams gone haywire. Would love to see your take on this:
http://news.google.com/news?q=&quot;Revolution+Health&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish FitBit folks the best of luck and according to my experience with the industry they are going to need it. Many health-focused businesses appear deceptively easy from the outside, but there is a huge difference between what appears useful and what actually sells.</p>
<p>Have you followed Steve Case and his troubles with Revolution Health? This is perhaps the biggest case study in Web 2.0 dreams gone haywire. Would love to see your take on this:<br />
<a href="http://news.google.com/news?q=" rel="nofollow">http://news.google.com/news?q=</a>&#8220;Revolution+Health&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Drama 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/09/10/startup-advice-fitbit/comment-page-1/#comment-26687</link>
		<dc:creator>Drama 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Health Industry Observer: I don&#039;t mean to marginalize the difficulty of third-party sales and distribution. I obviously can&#039;t speak to the abilities of Fitbit&#039;s management. It&#039;s quite possible they don&#039;t have the skill, experience or relationships to execute successfully.

As for your comment that &quot;distribution channel owners are not stupid, they focus on pushing products that could get them highest volumes and margins&quot; and that &quot;gadgets like FitBit are novelties,&quot; I&#039;d point out that &quot;novelty gadgets&quot; sell all the time. 

The true utility of something is not necessarily correlated to volume and margins. In fact, less useful products often sell more than their more useful competitors.

I look at it this way: Fitbit is a souped up pedometer with a web interface. Do you know how many stores and businesses sell pedometers? Obviously, that&#039;s both a blessing and a curse but I&#039;ll put it this way: with the right strategy and a competent management team, there&#039;s no reason a product like this can&#039;t get some third-party distribution.

Will Fitbit become a massive business? I&#039;m don&#039;t know enough about the market or their economics to say that but given that this is a business that actually makes a product that is sold to someone puts it way ahead of most of the other TechCrunch50 startups.

And finally, while I think your skepticism over Fitbit is deserved, I have to say that I think your personal business interests are influencing your perspective here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Health Industry Observer: I don&#8217;t mean to marginalize the difficulty of third-party sales and distribution. I obviously can&#8217;t speak to the abilities of Fitbit&#8217;s management. It&#8217;s quite possible they don&#8217;t have the skill, experience or relationships to execute successfully.</p>
<p>As for your comment that &#8220;distribution channel owners are not stupid, they focus on pushing products that could get them highest volumes and margins&#8221; and that &#8220;gadgets like FitBit are novelties,&#8221; I&#8217;d point out that &#8220;novelty gadgets&#8221; sell all the time. </p>
<p>The true utility of something is not necessarily correlated to volume and margins. In fact, less useful products often sell more than their more useful competitors.</p>
<p>I look at it this way: Fitbit is a souped up pedometer with a web interface. Do you know how many stores and businesses sell pedometers? Obviously, that&#8217;s both a blessing and a curse but I&#8217;ll put it this way: with the right strategy and a competent management team, there&#8217;s no reason a product like this can&#8217;t get some third-party distribution.</p>
<p>Will Fitbit become a massive business? I&#8217;m don&#8217;t know enough about the market or their economics to say that but given that this is a business that actually makes a product that is sold to someone puts it way ahead of most of the other TechCrunch50 startups.</p>
<p>And finally, while I think your skepticism over Fitbit is deserved, I have to say that I think your personal business interests are influencing your perspective here.</p>
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		<title>By: KBed</title>
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		<dc:creator>KBed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great suggestions...</description>
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		<title>By: Health Industry Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Health Industry Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drama 2.0, you are right that &quot;Fitbit is almost certainly going to fail as a consumer play; its only hope is as as technology play&quot; - if you primarily look at their hardware.

However you make the 3rd party distribution sound way too easy. Distribution channel owners are not stupid, they focus on pushing products that could get them highest volumes and margins. I will go out on a limb and say that gadgets like FitBit are novelties that do not fit this profile.

Being poorly differentiated low-demand niche commodity hardware vendor who does not own the channel is tough. Just ask PC peripheral makers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drama 2.0, you are right that &#8220;Fitbit is almost certainly going to fail as a consumer play; its only hope is as as technology play&#8221; &#8211; if you primarily look at their hardware.</p>
<p>However you make the 3rd party distribution sound way too easy. Distribution channel owners are not stupid, they focus on pushing products that could get them highest volumes and margins. I will go out on a limb and say that gadgets like FitBit are novelties that do not fit this profile.</p>
<p>Being poorly differentiated low-demand niche commodity hardware vendor who does not own the channel is tough. Just ask PC peripheral makers.</p>
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		<title>By: ivv</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gyms? And white-labeled versions of the site for them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gyms? And white-labeled versions of the site for them?</p>
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		<title>By: Drama 2.0</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drama 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ivv: neither of those things solves Fitbit&#039;s current sales and distribution problem. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ivv: neither of those things solves Fitbit&#8217;s current sales and distribution problem. <img src='http://www.drama20show.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ivv</title>
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		<dc:creator>ivv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. iPod integration Nike+ style with aff. iTunes sales. &quot;Download your very own playlist for perfect sleep!&quot; 

2. Or subsidize the device in return for a year-long paid subscription to the site; make money on recurrent subs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. iPod integration Nike+ style with aff. iTunes sales. &#8220;Download your very own playlist for perfect sleep!&#8221; </p>
<p>2. Or subsidize the device in return for a year-long paid subscription to the site; make money on recurrent subs.</p>
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		<title>By: Drama 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/09/10/startup-advice-fitbit/comment-page-1/#comment-26531</link>
		<dc:creator>Drama 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Health Industry Observer: Fitbit might very well be one of a gazillion health gadgets (this isn&#039;t my space) but with all due respect, lots of dime-a-dozen-products with minimal differentiation serve as the foundations for profitable businesses because the people behind them came up with sales and distribution models that are far more effective and cost-efficient than their competitors.

&lt;strong&gt;A great product with a poor sales and distribution strategy usually goes nowhere - a mediocre product with an excellent sales and distribution strategy often goes everywhere.&lt;/strong&gt;

While Jenny Craig and Weight Watchers are the ideal targets for Fitbit, you&#039;re correct in noting that Fitbit may not be an ideal vendor for Jenny Craig and Weight Watchers. Frankly, I don&#039;t know what their strategic plans are, what they&#039;re already doing and who they&#039;re already talking to.

That notwithstanding, I could probably come up with a dozen other types of businesses in the weight-loss space that could provide sales and distribution for Fitbit and regardless of whether or not Fitbit is crappy, I think they&#039;d have a decent shot of getting something done in one of those business categories with the right pitch and package because the technology itself looks saleable even if it&#039;s not particularly defensible or differentiated.

The bottom line is that Fitbit is almost certainly going to fail as a consumer play; its only hope is as as technology play.

For what it&#039;s worth, I think Fitbit is most likely launching at TechCrunch50 because the people behind the company have tech consumer internet pedigrees (CNET/Webshots). This explains why they have chosen the wrong sales and distribution model and, of course, leaves considerable doubt as to their ability to execute on the one I suggested.

I&#039;ll stick to my guns on this: if you have a team capable of executing and dealmaking, something like this could become a very viable business with the right sales and distribution model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Health Industry Observer: Fitbit might very well be one of a gazillion health gadgets (this isn&#8217;t my space) but with all due respect, lots of dime-a-dozen-products with minimal differentiation serve as the foundations for profitable businesses because the people behind them came up with sales and distribution models that are far more effective and cost-efficient than their competitors.</p>
<p><strong>A great product with a poor sales and distribution strategy usually goes nowhere &#8211; a mediocre product with an excellent sales and distribution strategy often goes everywhere.</strong></p>
<p>While Jenny Craig and Weight Watchers are the ideal targets for Fitbit, you&#8217;re correct in noting that Fitbit may not be an ideal vendor for Jenny Craig and Weight Watchers. Frankly, I don&#8217;t know what their strategic plans are, what they&#8217;re already doing and who they&#8217;re already talking to.</p>
<p>That notwithstanding, I could probably come up with a dozen other types of businesses in the weight-loss space that could provide sales and distribution for Fitbit and regardless of whether or not Fitbit is crappy, I think they&#8217;d have a decent shot of getting something done in one of those business categories with the right pitch and package because the technology itself looks saleable even if it&#8217;s not particularly defensible or differentiated.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that Fitbit is almost certainly going to fail as a consumer play; its only hope is as as technology play.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I think Fitbit is most likely launching at TechCrunch50 because the people behind the company have tech consumer internet pedigrees (CNET/Webshots). This explains why they have chosen the wrong sales and distribution model and, of course, leaves considerable doubt as to their ability to execute on the one I suggested.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll stick to my guns on this: if you have a team capable of executing and dealmaking, something like this could become a very viable business with the right sales and distribution model.</p>
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