Comments on: Blogger Drama: Love Turns to Hate http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/ Keeping Tech Sexy Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:05:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Drama 2.0 http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-4753 Drama 2.0 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:17:06 +0000 http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/#comment-4753 Barrett: You are a real class act. Alisa should be proud to have such dignified, articulate friends. Antje: I don't know where I'm from. I recently started talking with a British accent (kind of like Britney Spears) and my psychiatrists are trying to figure it all out. Barrett: You are a real class act. Alisa should be proud to have such dignified, articulate friends.

Antje: I don’t know where I’m from. I recently started talking with a British accent (kind of like Britney Spears) and my psychiatrists are trying to figure it all out.

]]> By: antje wilsch http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-4752 antje wilsch Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:23:49 +0000 http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/#comment-4752 Antje: that’s between me and my psychiatrists! It's between you & your shrink that you're from the UK? ;) Antje: that’s between me and my psychiatrists!

It’s between you & your shrink that you’re from the UK? ;)

]]> By: barrett http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-4729 barrett Sun, 10 Feb 2008 06:44:30 +0000 http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/#comment-4729 How lame are you?!!! You're such a fraud! You won't post anything that doesn't stroke your ego, will you? I doubt Alisa is censoring her blog, you unobjective fool. By the way, everyone knows you got schooled. You make a great punchline, if that's any consolation. oh, watch out for that IP addy... How lame are you?!!! You’re such a fraud! You won’t post anything that doesn’t stroke your ego, will you? I doubt Alisa is censoring her blog, you unobjective fool. By the way, everyone knows you got schooled. You make a great punchline, if that’s any consolation.

oh, watch out for that IP addy…

]]> By: Drama 2.0 http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-4619 Drama 2.0 Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:05:32 +0000 http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/#comment-4619 Erica: Hate is a strong word. I don't hate Web 2.0. I just dislike the attendant kool aid (and some of the drinkers of it). I'll address the Forrester Research report in an upcoming post (next few days). But I will say this: if you look back over the years at all of the BS that has been distributed by these research firms who often charge thousands of dollars for their reports, you'll see that relying on them for actionable advice is probably about as wise as relying on Tarot cards to make business decisions. In regards to the other MediaPost article, <a href="http://www.oneupweb.com/" rel="nofollow">look who OneUpWeb is</a>. A firm that offers social media marketing services issues a "study" that says brands need to do more with their social media marketing campaigns. What a shocker! Antje: that's between me and my psychiatrists! Cyndy: what should they do? How about "get a real job." :) Erica: Hate is a strong word. I don’t hate Web 2.0. I just dislike the attendant kool aid (and some of the drinkers of it).

I’ll address the Forrester Research report in an upcoming post (next few days). But I will say this: if you look back over the years at all of the BS that has been distributed by these research firms who often charge thousands of dollars for their reports, you’ll see that relying on them for actionable advice is probably about as wise as relying on Tarot cards to make business decisions.

In regards to the other MediaPost article, look who OneUpWeb is. A firm that offers social media marketing services issues a “study” that says brands need to do more with their social media marketing campaigns. What a shocker!

Antje: that’s between me and my psychiatrists!

Cyndy: what should they do? How about “get a real job.” :)

]]> By: Cyndy Aleo-Carreira http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-4580 Cyndy Aleo-Carreira Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:40:36 +0000 http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/#comment-4580 I've been following the "debate" and shaking my head. Google themselves pretty much admitted they screwed the pooch on the whole social networking thing with their 4Q earnings report, or did all these marketers miss it? The biggest problem right now is that marketers really have no idea how to leverage social media and know if they admit it to clients they are out of a job, so what do you do? Technology has moved much too quickly (and often, with no business plan behind it) for marketing methods to catch up. How can you see an ROI on ads and other marketing efforts when 99% of the sites you are using for these marketing efforts have no idea THEMSELVES how to be profitable? Right now, everything in this space is "throw it at the wall and see what sticks." No marketer is going to admit it, and will play buzzword bingo until the cows come home, but until Web 2.0 itself shakes out what is worthwhile and what isn't, there is never going to be a formula for marketing anything by utilizing it. I’ve been following the “debate” and shaking my head. Google themselves pretty much admitted they screwed the pooch on the whole social networking thing with their 4Q earnings report, or did all these marketers miss it?

The biggest problem right now is that marketers really have no idea how to leverage social media and know if they admit it to clients they are out of a job, so what do you do?

Technology has moved much too quickly (and often, with no business plan behind it) for marketing methods to catch up. How can you see an ROI on ads and other marketing efforts when 99% of the sites you are using for these marketing efforts have no idea THEMSELVES how to be profitable?

Right now, everything in this space is “throw it at the wall and see what sticks.” No marketer is going to admit it, and will play buzzword bingo until the cows come home, but until Web 2.0 itself shakes out what is worthwhile and what isn’t, there is never going to be a formula for marketing anything by utilizing it.

]]> By: Eddie http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-4572 Eddie Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:38:44 +0000 http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/#comment-4572 Methinks this Alisa Leonard is off her medication. Methinks this Alisa Leonard is off her medication.

]]> By: antje wilsch http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-4570 antje wilsch Fri, 08 Feb 2008 02:27:22 +0000 http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/#comment-4570 "you are a 35+ balding man from the UK who suffers from severe blog envy, and frustrated at not being able to actionably leverage social media" gasp, is this true Drama? “you are a 35+ balding man from the UK who suffers from severe blog envy, and frustrated at not being able to actionably leverage social media”

gasp, is this true Drama?

]]> By: J. Harrison http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-4564 J. Harrison Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:32:45 +0000 http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/#comment-4564 Nice response. What a low-class email she sent. Nice response. What a low-class email she sent.

]]> By: Erica http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-4562 Erica Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:01:13 +0000 http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/#comment-4562 ah but wait! Then there's this report... I hadn't finished reading my onlinemediadaily newsletter yet ;-) http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.san&s=75975&Nid=39127&p=360881 ah but wait! Then there’s this report… I hadn’t finished reading my onlinemediadaily newsletter yet ;-)

http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.san&s=75975&Nid=39127&p=360881

]]> By: Erica http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-4561 Erica Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:54:51 +0000 http://www.drama20show.com/2008/02/06/blogger-drama-love-turns-to-hate/#comment-4561 Drama, I know you hate Web 2.0 and the all the attendant kool aid but what do you make of reports such as the recent Forrester research report touting social marketing as a cheap alternative during recession? http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=75979 p.s. i'm a new reader to the blog, but I heart it :-) Not sure what to make of the Social Media Debates though, still mulling 'em over. I'm still a fan of 2.0/social media myself, fwiw... cheers - Drama,

I know you hate Web 2.0 and the all the attendant kool aid but what do you make of reports such as the recent Forrester research report touting social marketing as a cheap alternative during recession?

http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=75979

p.s. i’m a new reader to the blog, but I heart it :-) Not sure what to make of the Social Media Debates though, still mulling ‘em over. I’m still a fan of 2.0/social media myself, fwiw…

cheers -

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