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		<title>By: flairjax &#187; The next revolution.</title>
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		<dc:creator>flairjax &#187; The next revolution.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post, I wrote about the next revolution that is would be coming. Some of my thoughts can be found here. Here I will try to rewrite it, but in a summarized version. If I find the original post on my old [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Duncan Riley: I Think We Found Your Brother from Another Mother : The Drama 2.0 Show</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan Riley: I Think We Found Your Brother from Another Mother : The Drama 2.0 Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one of the TechCrunch commenters whose asinine comments were featured in my post about the death of &#8220;real journalism&#8221; fell in love with The Drama 2.0 Show and has [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Drama 2.0</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drama 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re hilarious Jason. If Michael Arrington was ever looking for a replacement for Duncan Riley, you would probably be candidate numero uno.

&quot;If journalists would get with it and start a blog about around a subject of their expertise bringing their readers along with them they might actually be able to make more money.&quot;

You do realize that most bloggers do not make a whole lot of money? And you do realize that most journalists see journalism as profession? They get paid for reporting the news and they have the opportunity to do a good job at it because they have access to significant resources. There&#039;s a reason that journalists can go halfway around the world to cover a story and the vast majority of bloggers can&#039;t. Not everybody wants to be an &quot;entrepreneur&quot; running their own show and that&#039;s okay. 

&quot;Further, if you can’t see decentralization happening around you then you have no business being in business.&quot;

I really hate pissing matches, but if you did a little bit of research about &quot;Drama 2.0&quot;, I think you&#039;d see the stupidity in this comment.

&quot;Have you not noticed that a room full of 20’s now have the ability to take down an industry (TV, Radio, Newspapers, etc)?&quot;

I just turned on the TV. The networks still seem to be broadcasting. Found an old radio and turned that on. The airwaves are still filled with the sound of music. Newspaper was delivered this morning.

I think you have a warped, small-perspective, simplistic black-and-white view of reality but let&#039;s make this simple: name one 20-something who has &quot;taken down&quot; an industry. I think you&#039;re going to have a hard time doing it because the truth of the matter is that these industries are still making money. Perhaps not as much as they did before, but you&#039;ll also notice that they&#039;re shifting and adapting to the Internet:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN2424356120080124&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Newspaper Web sites draw record viewers&lt;/a&gt;

To use one of Matthew Ingram&#039;s comments from the pingback above, &quot;just because some newspapers aren’t making 30-per-cent returns on invested capital&quot; doesn&#039;t mean that they&#039;re dead.

&quot;we will soon see this centralized corporate run government become decentralized and less focused on big business. I am not sure Americans are ready in 2008, but possibly 2012.&quot;

You need to add &quot;comedian&quot; to your list of careers. If you haven&#039;t noticed, big business is only becoming more entrenched in America. Maybe this is not what we want, but it&#039;s happening.

&quot;As far as my experience and my career goes. Some of us are intelligent enough to succeed in any position.&quot;

Okay. You list yourself as a marketer, programmer, designer, and inventor. Tell me what you&#039;ve marketed, programmed, designed and invented. There&#039;s no information about your successes on Google and I can&#039;t find any patents that you hold or have filed for via the USPTO. Fill me in. And pray tell, who pays you for these things? Do you market, program, design and invent things for your own business or are you marketing, programming, designing and inventing for somebody else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re hilarious Jason. If Michael Arrington was ever looking for a replacement for Duncan Riley, you would probably be candidate numero uno.</p>
<p>&#8220;If journalists would get with it and start a blog about around a subject of their expertise bringing their readers along with them they might actually be able to make more money.&#8221;</p>
<p>You do realize that most bloggers do not make a whole lot of money? And you do realize that most journalists see journalism as profession? They get paid for reporting the news and they have the opportunity to do a good job at it because they have access to significant resources. There&#8217;s a reason that journalists can go halfway around the world to cover a story and the vast majority of bloggers can&#8217;t. Not everybody wants to be an &#8220;entrepreneur&#8221; running their own show and that&#8217;s okay. </p>
<p>&#8220;Further, if you can’t see decentralization happening around you then you have no business being in business.&#8221;</p>
<p>I really hate pissing matches, but if you did a little bit of research about &#8220;Drama 2.0&#8243;, I think you&#8217;d see the stupidity in this comment.</p>
<p>&#8220;Have you not noticed that a room full of 20’s now have the ability to take down an industry (TV, Radio, Newspapers, etc)?&#8221;</p>
<p>I just turned on the TV. The networks still seem to be broadcasting. Found an old radio and turned that on. The airwaves are still filled with the sound of music. Newspaper was delivered this morning.</p>
<p>I think you have a warped, small-perspective, simplistic black-and-white view of reality but let&#8217;s make this simple: name one 20-something who has &#8220;taken down&#8221; an industry. I think you&#8217;re going to have a hard time doing it because the truth of the matter is that these industries are still making money. Perhaps not as much as they did before, but you&#8217;ll also notice that they&#8217;re shifting and adapting to the Internet:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN2424356120080124" rel="nofollow">Newspaper Web sites draw record viewers</a></p>
<p>To use one of Matthew Ingram&#8217;s comments from the pingback above, &#8220;just because some newspapers aren’t making 30-per-cent returns on invested capital&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean that they&#8217;re dead.</p>
<p>&#8220;we will soon see this centralized corporate run government become decentralized and less focused on big business. I am not sure Americans are ready in 2008, but possibly 2012.&#8221;</p>
<p>You need to add &#8220;comedian&#8221; to your list of careers. If you haven&#8217;t noticed, big business is only becoming more entrenched in America. Maybe this is not what we want, but it&#8217;s happening.</p>
<p>&#8220;As far as my experience and my career goes. Some of us are intelligent enough to succeed in any position.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay. You list yourself as a marketer, programmer, designer, and inventor. Tell me what you&#8217;ve marketed, programmed, designed and invented. There&#8217;s no information about your successes on Google and I can&#8217;t find any patents that you hold or have filed for via the USPTO. Fill me in. And pray tell, who pays you for these things? Do you market, program, design and invent things for your own business or are you marketing, programming, designing and inventing for somebody else?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt A.*</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt A.*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your contrarian point of views, Drama. They are very refreshing and valuable to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your contrarian point of views, Drama. They are very refreshing and valuable to me.</p>
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		<title>By: flairjax &#187; This post is for Drama 2.0.</title>
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		<dc:creator>flairjax &#187; This post is for Drama 2.0.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You can catch up on the posts here and here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you like these short scattered thought posts, here is another.

Who the heck is Duncan Riley? How can everyone not see the pattern happening? 

I would write more, but after reading your &quot;about&quot; I see controversy is your thing. So you can read the rest on my blog. www.flairjax.com 

Or will you remove this comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you like these short scattered thought posts, here is another.</p>
<p>Who the heck is Duncan Riley? How can everyone not see the pattern happening? </p>
<p>I would write more, but after reading your &#8220;about&#8221; I see controversy is your thing. So you can read the rest on my blog. <a href="http://www.flairjax.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.flairjax.com</a> </p>
<p>Or will you remove this comment?</p>
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		<title>By: Journalism: of sell-outs and hand-outs - - mathewingram.com/media</title>
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		<dc:creator>Journalism: of sell-outs and hand-outs - - mathewingram.com/media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8212; and I emphasize the term *paper* &#8212; business might be having a rough time, although plenty of people have pointed out that Sam Zell and Rupert Murdoch seem to see the newspaper business as pretty [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Journalism: of sell-outs and hand-outs - - mathewingram.com/work</title>
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		<dc:creator>Journalism: of sell-outs and hand-outs - - mathewingram.com/work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8212; and I emphasize the term *paper* &#8212; business might be having a rough time, although plenty of people have pointed out that Sam Zell and Rupert Murdoch seem to see the newspaper business as pretty [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry, but I don&#039;t think I ever mentioned freelance in any of my comments on TechCrunch. Or did someone assume what they shouldn&#039;t have? If journalists would get with it and start a blog about  around a subject of their expertise bringing their readers along with them they might actually be able to make more money. Stop just writing articles and become thought leaders in your area of expertise. 

I am not sure why your so sore about the article on TechCrunch. Maybe because you are struggling with the truth behind the article? Maybe you were let go recently? I am not trying to be hostile here, but if everything is ok then why the anger in your tone? My comments weren&#039;t about taking down journalist, but taking down the centralized old boy networks that dominated business, government, etc...

Further, if you can&#039;t see decentralization happening around you then you have no business being in business. Have you not noticed that a room full of 20&#039;s now have the ability to take down an industry (TV, Radio, Newspapers, etc)? Here are a few examples. Have you not heard of Skype, Joost, Prosper, Craiglist, Pirate Bay, GameCock, I can go on? Those who see this pattern now will make great gains and those who don&#039;t well.... I won&#039;t get into it here, but we will soon see this centralized corporate run government become decentralized and less focused on big business. I am not sure Americans are ready in 2008, but possibly 2012.  

As far as the personnel attack on me? Do you know anything about me? Why the hostility? Are you a one of the old boys? If so then I can understand why you would be upset, which goes to prove my point. They are scared, which is why they are all asking for the government to bail them out. They are seeing their industry crumble under their feet.

As far as my experience and my career goes. Some of us are intelligent enough to succeed in any position. Some of us have been given the opportunity to work in several departments in order to learn every aspect of a business. Those that have not taken that opportunity or have not been given that opportunity are the ones that freak out when their careers come to end because the industry is vanishing, the technology they are using is going away, or they are arrogant and think people can&#039;t live without them or their skill set. Does any of this sound familiar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry, but I don&#8217;t think I ever mentioned freelance in any of my comments on TechCrunch. Or did someone assume what they shouldn&#8217;t have? If journalists would get with it and start a blog about  around a subject of their expertise bringing their readers along with them they might actually be able to make more money. Stop just writing articles and become thought leaders in your area of expertise. </p>
<p>I am not sure why your so sore about the article on TechCrunch. Maybe because you are struggling with the truth behind the article? Maybe you were let go recently? I am not trying to be hostile here, but if everything is ok then why the anger in your tone? My comments weren&#8217;t about taking down journalist, but taking down the centralized old boy networks that dominated business, government, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Further, if you can&#8217;t see decentralization happening around you then you have no business being in business. Have you not noticed that a room full of 20&#8217;s now have the ability to take down an industry (TV, Radio, Newspapers, etc)? Here are a few examples. Have you not heard of Skype, Joost, Prosper, Craiglist, Pirate Bay, GameCock, I can go on? Those who see this pattern now will make great gains and those who don&#8217;t well&#8230;. I won&#8217;t get into it here, but we will soon see this centralized corporate run government become decentralized and less focused on big business. I am not sure Americans are ready in 2008, but possibly 2012.  </p>
<p>As far as the personnel attack on me? Do you know anything about me? Why the hostility? Are you a one of the old boys? If so then I can understand why you would be upset, which goes to prove my point. They are scared, which is why they are all asking for the government to bail them out. They are seeing their industry crumble under their feet.</p>
<p>As far as my experience and my career goes. Some of us are intelligent enough to succeed in any position. Some of us have been given the opportunity to work in several departments in order to learn every aspect of a business. Those that have not taken that opportunity or have not been given that opportunity are the ones that freak out when their careers come to end because the industry is vanishing, the technology they are using is going away, or they are arrogant and think people can&#8217;t live without them or their skill set. Does any of this sound familiar?</p>
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