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		<title>By: When Politics Invades the Tech Blogosphere : The Drama 2.0 Show</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/01/04/politics-20-is-politics-as-usual/comment-page-1/#comment-24586</link>
		<dc:creator>When Politics Invades the Tech Blogosphere : The Drama 2.0 Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for instance, have discussed politics on The Drama 2.0 Show in the context of how politicians are now using the Internet and social media [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Are Americans Using the Internet to Go Beyond the Sound Bite? : The Drama 2.0 Show</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/01/04/politics-20-is-politics-as-usual/comment-page-1/#comment-9672</link>
		<dc:creator>Are Americans Using the Internet to Go Beyond the Sound Bite? : The Drama 2.0 Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in January, I argued that &#8220;Politics 2.0 is politics as usual&#8221; and stated: In my opinion, Web 2.0 has become little more than the technological equivalent of the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Wikipedia Approach&#8221; to Save Congress? : The Drama 2.0 Show</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/01/04/politics-20-is-politics-as-usual/comment-page-1/#comment-6509</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Wikipedia Approach&#8221; to Save Congress? : The Drama 2.0 Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 06:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve written about Politics 2.0 before and therefore it&#8217;s not surprising that I think Lessig&#8217;s attempt to reform Congress will fail. I could easily rattle off a dozen reasons why Change-congress.org won&#8217;t go anywhere, from the fact that the American political system is inherently flawed to the fact that Change-congress.org will probably never gain the critical mass required to get politicians to take it seriously. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve written about Politics 2.0 before and therefore it&#8217;s not surprising that I think Lessig&#8217;s attempt to reform Congress will fail. I could easily rattle off a dozen reasons why Change-congress.org won&#8217;t go anywhere, from the fact that the American political system is inherently flawed to the fact that Change-congress.org will probably never gain the critical mass required to get politicians to take it seriously. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: World Economic Forum Takes its Bullshit to YouTube : The Drama 2.0 Show</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/01/04/politics-20-is-politics-as-usual/comment-page-1/#comment-2365</link>
		<dc:creator>World Economic Forum Takes its Bullshit to YouTube : The Drama 2.0 Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Web 2.0 and is asking the &#8220;community&#8221; for its help in saving the world using the same bullshit distribution platform presidential hopefuls have been using: YouTube. That&#8217;s right, you can now upload your [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Web 2.0 and is asking the &#8220;community&#8221; for its help in saving the world using the same bullshit distribution platform presidential hopefuls have been using: YouTube. That&#8217;s right, you can now upload your [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Drama 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/01/04/politics-20-is-politics-as-usual/comment-page-1/#comment-1668</link>
		<dc:creator>Drama 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 16:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael: I don&#039;t doubt that the Internet is helping candidates raise money from a lot of individuals. Just look at Ron Paul. But I don&#039;t think this in and of itself is going to result in the election of a candidate who is going to change the way business gets done in Washington. Whoever wins is going to have to play the game whether they like it or not.

In terms of powerful interests, I will say little more than:

1. The amount of money these interests have will not be rivaled by donations from lots of individual supporters.
2. Not all money is created the same. That is, some money is more powerful.
3. There&#039;s a lot more to it than just money.

At the end of the day, don&#039;t forget that the President of the United States is not the most powerful man in the world. He&#039;s just a figurehead. The real shots are called elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael: I don&#8217;t doubt that the Internet is helping candidates raise money from a lot of individuals. Just look at Ron Paul. But I don&#8217;t think this in and of itself is going to result in the election of a candidate who is going to change the way business gets done in Washington. Whoever wins is going to have to play the game whether they like it or not.</p>
<p>In terms of powerful interests, I will say little more than:</p>
<p>1. The amount of money these interests have will not be rivaled by donations from lots of individual supporters.<br />
2. Not all money is created the same. That is, some money is more powerful.<br />
3. There&#8217;s a lot more to it than just money.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, don&#8217;t forget that the President of the United States is not the most powerful man in the world. He&#8217;s just a figurehead. The real shots are called elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Camilleri</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/01/04/politics-20-is-politics-as-usual/comment-page-1/#comment-1658</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Camilleri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 07:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Michael: even if Web 2.0 propelled Obama’s win, the question would be: so what? If Obama wins the presidency, do people really expect that it’s going to change how Washington operates?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If Web 2.0 propelled his win I think there is an argument that says it not only makes it &lt;em&gt;possible&lt;/em&gt; to raise money from lots of individuals, it makes it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/17/us/politics/17obama.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;viable&lt;/a&gt;. Moreover, if Web 2.0 provides a cheaper way to reach people then it further lowers the bar to entry.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Anybody with an iota of common sense knows that when a politician is elected, no matter how much he or she wants to represent “the people,” he or she has to answer to more powerful interests than the American public.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Isn&#039;t what makes the powerful interests powerful the amounts of money they contribute? If the Web 2.0 levels that playing field doesn&#039;t it, even within the constructs of your argument, change the power balance and result in politicians who not only are more representative, but more responsive, too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Michael: even if Web 2.0 propelled Obama’s win, the question would be: so what? If Obama wins the presidency, do people really expect that it’s going to change how Washington operates?</p></blockquote>
<p>If Web 2.0 propelled his win I think there is an argument that says it not only makes it <em>possible</em> to raise money from lots of individuals, it makes it <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/17/us/politics/17obama.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">viable</a>. Moreover, if Web 2.0 provides a cheaper way to reach people then it further lowers the bar to entry.</p>
<blockquote><p>Anybody with an iota of common sense knows that when a politician is elected, no matter how much he or she wants to represent “the people,” he or she has to answer to more powerful interests than the American public.</p></blockquote>
<p>Isn&#8217;t what makes the powerful interests powerful the amounts of money they contribute? If the Web 2.0 levels that playing field doesn&#8217;t it, even within the constructs of your argument, change the power balance and result in politicians who not only are more representative, but more responsive, too?</p>
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		<title>By: Wikinomics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Politics 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/01/04/politics-20-is-politics-as-usual/comment-page-1/#comment-1652</link>
		<dc:creator>Wikinomics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Politics 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at the impact of the web and the flurry of 2.0-esque activity on these outcomes. But then I found this post at The Drama 2.0 Show, and figured that I could do no [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Herman</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/01/04/politics-20-is-politics-as-usual/comment-page-1/#comment-1649</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Herman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic post. As a cynic, though one who gets paid to research this trend, your last line sums it up perfectly, &quot;Web 2.0 has to become more than a “democratic” new distribution platform for politicians’ bullshit.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post. As a cynic, though one who gets paid to research this trend, your last line sums it up perfectly, &#8220;Web 2.0 has to become more than a “democratic” new distribution platform for politicians’ bullshit.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Drama 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/01/04/politics-20-is-politics-as-usual/comment-page-1/#comment-1648</link>
		<dc:creator>Drama 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 16:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael: even if Web 2.0 propelled Obama&#039;s win, the question would be: so what? If Obama wins the presidency, do people really expect that it&#039;s going to change how Washington operates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael: even if Web 2.0 propelled Obama&#8217;s win, the question would be: so what? If Obama wins the presidency, do people really expect that it&#8217;s going to change how Washington operates?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Camilleri</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2008/01/04/politics-20-is-politics-as-usual/comment-page-1/#comment-1645</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Camilleri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 09:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/01/04/winners_triumphed_by_attracting_new_voters/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;News&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&amp;ct=us/3-0&amp;fp=477e95a7b1fb4cd7&amp;ei=7AF-R-jyKKfm6gPX3YD7DA&amp;url=http%3A//www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-dems_frijan04%2C0%2C6268317.story%3Fcoll%3Dchi_business_util&amp;cid=1125623718&amp;sig2=0CD_c9_6HonrQk6dLCXnYg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sites&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/04/us/politics/04elect.html?em&amp;ex=1199595600&amp;en=d06937348fc56133&amp;ei=5087%0A&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;are&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/connelly/346058_joel04.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reporting &lt;/a&gt; it was young voters that propelled at least Obama&#039;s vote. I don&#039;t see any evidence that it was Web 2.0 that got these people out but it seems at least plausible. Like you said, some sort of investigation into this would be good to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/01/04/winners_triumphed_by_attracting_new_voters/" rel="nofollow">News</a> <a href="http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&amp;ct=us/3-0&amp;fp=477e95a7b1fb4cd7&amp;ei=7AF-R-jyKKfm6gPX3YD7DA&amp;url=http%3A//www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-dems_frijan04%2C0%2C6268317.story%3Fcoll%3Dchi_business_util&amp;cid=1125623718&amp;sig2=0CD_c9_6HonrQk6dLCXnYg" rel="nofollow">sites</a> <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/04/us/politics/04elect.html?em&amp;ex=1199595600&amp;en=d06937348fc56133&amp;ei=5087%0A" rel="nofollow">are</a> <a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/connelly/346058_joel04.html" rel="nofollow">reporting </a> it was young voters that propelled at least Obama&#8217;s vote. I don&#8217;t see any evidence that it was Web 2.0 that got these people out but it seems at least plausible. Like you said, some sort of investigation into this would be good to see.</p>
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