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	<title>Comments on: Look Out New Economy, Here Comes The New New Facebook Economy</title>
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		<title>By: Play Poker, Win VC Funding : The Drama 2.0 Show</title>
		<link>http://www.drama20show.com/2007/07/10/here-comes-the-new-new-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-2393</link>
		<dc:creator>Play Poker, Win VC Funding : The Drama 2.0 Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] inner circles by playing poker. His new startup, Triggit, just raised $500,000 from Bay Partners, the firm that never received the memo announcing that the New Economy was a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wayne Porter- Reality Does not a Second Life Make &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Vinny Lingham's Synthasite and Facebook Funds, Widgets and Social Relevance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Porter- Reality Does not a Second Life Make &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Vinny Lingham's Synthasite and Facebook Funds, Widgets and Social Relevance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from widgetry to Nielson sobering up over pageviews (think engagement), and while some call it insanity&#8230;these dozens of fast-tracked, micro-investments are a pittance compared to what really sits [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from widgetry to Nielson sobering up over pageviews (think engagement), and while some call it insanity&#8230;these dozens of fast-tracked, micro-investments are a pittance compared to what really sits [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MySpace: The Second Coming : The Drama 2.0 Show</title>
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		<dc:creator>MySpace: The Second Coming : The Drama 2.0 Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a way to &#8220;officially&#8221; participate in Facebook has developers clamoring to build, and less-than-prudent VCs clamoring to invest. Developers will go where the users are, and if MySpace implements an API, developers will be [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jay (living in First Life)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay (living in First Life)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love you Drama.  Here&#039;s my recent TC comment below yours:

Sail, I think you&#039;re missing the real problem with Facebook apps.  They are getting too crowded.  When you&#039;re one of a few, attention is easy.  When you&#039;re one of a thousand, attention is hard.  Facebook apps have the same problem that all the Web 2.0 companies with baby toy names have - it&#039;s very, very difficult to build a large enough community that you can build something worth monetizing.

Let&#039;s for a second assume that you invest in an &quot;apps&quot; company that employs 4 engineers and 1 business person (if there&#039;s no business person involved, I hope your LPs don&#039;t commit any further funds to your firm).  Let&#039;s assume you low-ball on salaries because the engineers are all co-founders and you get them to work for $40,000/year.  Make that fully loaded and you&#039;re up to about $60,000/year.  For the sake of argument and simplicity, let&#039;s assume the business guy comes at the same price so we&#039;ve got 5 people at $60,000/year fully loaded.  That&#039;s $300,000/year in H.R. costs.  Now add in $100,000 for using Amazon&#039;s EC2 and S3 and $50,000 for office and $50,000 for legal.  You&#039;re up to a $500,000 per year cost structure.

If we are to believe Andrew Chen at Mohr Davidow (http://www.insidefacebook.com/2007/06/24/vc-perspectives-on-the-facebook-platform-andrew-chen-mdv-eir/), we see that Facebook app CPMs should be somewhere around $0.01/CPM.

Now, just to cover the operating costs of the business, we have to hit 50 milion CPMS which is 50 billion views.

Let&#039;s say the average app user logs in 300 times per year (I think I&#039;m being quite generous here), then you need 166 million app installs to just cover costs.

Please do enlighten me how your &quot;portfolio apps companies&quot; plan on getting 166 million Facebook users to install the app given Facebook doesn&#039;t even have that many members?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love you Drama.  Here&#8217;s my recent TC comment below yours:</p>
<p>Sail, I think you&#8217;re missing the real problem with Facebook apps.  They are getting too crowded.  When you&#8217;re one of a few, attention is easy.  When you&#8217;re one of a thousand, attention is hard.  Facebook apps have the same problem that all the Web 2.0 companies with baby toy names have &#8211; it&#8217;s very, very difficult to build a large enough community that you can build something worth monetizing.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s for a second assume that you invest in an &#8220;apps&#8221; company that employs 4 engineers and 1 business person (if there&#8217;s no business person involved, I hope your LPs don&#8217;t commit any further funds to your firm).  Let&#8217;s assume you low-ball on salaries because the engineers are all co-founders and you get them to work for $40,000/year.  Make that fully loaded and you&#8217;re up to about $60,000/year.  For the sake of argument and simplicity, let&#8217;s assume the business guy comes at the same price so we&#8217;ve got 5 people at $60,000/year fully loaded.  That&#8217;s $300,000/year in H.R. costs.  Now add in $100,000 for using Amazon&#8217;s EC2 and S3 and $50,000 for office and $50,000 for legal.  You&#8217;re up to a $500,000 per year cost structure.</p>
<p>If we are to believe Andrew Chen at Mohr Davidow (<a href="http://www.insidefacebook.com/2007/06/24/vc-perspectives-on-the-facebook-platform-andrew-chen-mdv-eir/)" rel="nofollow">http://www.insidefacebook.com/2007/06/24/vc-perspectives-on-the-facebook-platform-andrew-chen-mdv-eir/)</a>, we see that Facebook app CPMs should be somewhere around $0.01/CPM.</p>
<p>Now, just to cover the operating costs of the business, we have to hit 50 milion CPMS which is 50 billion views.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say the average app user logs in 300 times per year (I think I&#8217;m being quite generous here), then you need 166 million app installs to just cover costs.</p>
<p>Please do enlighten me how your &#8220;portfolio apps companies&#8221; plan on getting 166 million Facebook users to install the app given Facebook doesn&#8217;t even have that many members?</p>
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